tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post5487669958760910914..comments2023-08-24T10:28:18.911-05:00Comments on Justice for Scott Peterson: Constantly Reaching AbsurdityMarlene Newellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-77241253792094184872011-08-24T13:56:37.941-05:002011-08-24T13:56:37.941-05:00@Heather -- yes, she did have to be in the Bay for...@Heather -- yes, she did have to be in the Bay for a period of time to have barnacles. Barnacles attach as miscroscopic critters and once attached, stay put. They attach in intertidal areas and then travel wherever their host takes them; however, lots of time their hosts stay put, too.<br /><br />No one appears to have measured the barnacles, but Pin Kyo said there were "many" and she used terms like "large" to make note in her testimony that some were bigger than others.<br /><br />That means she was in an intertidal area for successive settlements of barnacles. <br /><br />The route for Scott's fishing trip is not an intertidal area. The location where Cheng said the bodies separated is not an intertidal area. <br /><br />Intertidal areas are only covered at the higher high tides -- meaning the objects to which the barnacles are attached are exposed the majority of the time.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-5562804951539886842011-08-23T13:41:26.500-05:002011-08-23T13:41:26.500-05:00One thing very positive about Scott -- he NEVER bl...One thing very positive about Scott -- he NEVER blamed Laci for the affair. It is very typical for men who have affairs to give all the reasons why the wife is responsible -- Scott never did, never once, even though Amber did her best to egg him on. <br /><br />Another thing, Scott never once threw Amber under the bus -- NOT ONCE did he ever suggest that she had anything to do with Laci's disappearance, even though he had plenty of opportunity to do so. NOT ONCE did he ever say Amber was to blame for the affair -- that she seduced him or tricked him. That, too, is common behavior for men who commit adultery, to put the responsibility for the affair on the shoulders of the other woman. <br /><br />Another thing about Scott -- not once did he ever criticize Amber's morality. Not once did he ever criticize Amber's choices in life.<br /><br />And when Amber demanded that he make comparisons between her and Laci, he said only good things about each of them. <br /><br />Scott assumed full responsibility for the affair -- he never once even hinted at blaming anyone but himself.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-2280338201783750262011-08-23T10:15:50.095-05:002011-08-23T10:15:50.095-05:00copied from above post:
Jane said...
Heather, y...copied from above post:<br /><br /><br />Jane said... <br />Heather, you should do some more reading.<br /><br />Some quotes from the Jan 6-8 conversations with Amber for those who say Scott was not trying to find his wife and did not love her.Bruce Dombrowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18122581506381770566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-44415075957553675402011-08-23T00:36:51.794-05:002011-08-23T00:36:51.794-05:00Bruce, do you have the date/time or the exhibit # ...Bruce, do you have the date/time or the exhibit # for the phone call in which he said "the child"? ThanksMarlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-84604302205436534742011-08-22T18:06:11.419-05:002011-08-22T18:06:11.419-05:00PETERSON: "So I hope that leads to a good res...PETERSON: "So I hope that leads to a good resolution in finding her and the child."<br /><br />the child? the child? how about "my baby", or "My son" even "my kid" would have been better than "the child"<br /><br />PETERSON: "The most important thing is finding Laci."<br /><br />I wonder if he felt that way the night of the vigil? sure didnt seem like it to me...Bruce Dombrowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18122581506381770566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-90761141810966017212011-08-09T19:49:42.110-05:002011-08-09T19:49:42.110-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.A Voice of Sanityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285284153694191831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-4886566921826383082011-08-05T17:53:09.586-05:002011-08-05T17:53:09.586-05:00I have had to take pathology courses; which includ...I have had to take pathology courses; which includes dealing with dead tissues. I am taking Dr. Peterson's measurements and the testimony straight from the trial record.<br /><br />How do you explain the barnacles growing on her skeleton? She would have to be in a type of environment (ie the bay) in order for that to happen.My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-78134894565070555012011-08-05T16:43:54.880-05:002011-08-05T16:43:54.880-05:00You are so wrong Heather -- none of what you said ...You are so wrong Heather -- none of what you said applies to a uterus that has been dead for 3.5 months. You are talking about a live uterus in a live woman -- and that is not what happened in the State's scenario. <br /><br />No one put pregnant Laci in the Bay on December 24 or any other day. It just didn't happen.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-35633554184279284192011-08-05T15:10:54.539-05:002011-08-05T15:10:54.539-05:00Dr. Peterson testified that her uterus was friable...Dr. Peterson testified that her uterus was friable and measured less than 2 mm thus making it smaller is size. ****Edited to say the thickness of the uterus was less than 2 mm****My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-45326604976627730852011-08-05T15:04:28.270-05:002011-08-05T15:04:28.270-05:00Marlene,
I appreciate your answer. I don't eq...Marlene,<br /><br />I appreciate your answer. I don't equate adultery with murder. You can have one without the other. There are just too many things that cannot be explained away:<br /><br />He told Amber that he had "lost" his wife and less than 3 weeks later, she goes missing.<br /><br />He visited the Berkley marina multiple times, using multiple vehicles, and never once stopped to see how the search was going.<br /><br />He lied to multiple people, including those closest to him, for no apparent reason.<br /><br />He still managed to find time to go golfing and to his country club while his pregnant wife is missing. He worried about whether he was "pulling an OJ" by going golfing.<br /><br />If you know anything about pregnacy, uterus size, how fluids shift after death, etc., you know it is possible for her uterus to be smaller. The uterus grows to acommodate the baby, placenta,and amniotic fluid. Once those are no longer in the uterus, it is going to be smaller. Her body had evidence of animal feeding, barnacles, and severe decomposition. Dr. Peterson testified that her uterus was friable and measured less than 2 mm thus making it smaller is size. I have dealt with friable tissue on many occasions.I have dealt with many babies that have friable/gelatinous skin. Unless you have seen it, it's very hard to imagine.My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-84537380432498318602011-08-05T13:40:33.526-05:002011-08-05T13:40:33.526-05:00To add another response, because the comments are ...To add another response, because the comments are limited in length -- I don't think about what I would have done had I been in similar situations, but I do think about what I hope and pray I wouldn't do.<br /><br />I hope and pray I would have more loyalty than Scott's friends had -- require much more evidence and not allow myself to be used to spy -- let the police do their own investigations, if they need me to spy, then I hope I would have enough common sense to know there was something very wrong with their case.<br /><br />I hope and pray I would not turn so easily against a son-in-law or daughter-in-law.<br /><br />I hope and pray I would never sit silent in a courtroom listening to the State distort the truth about things I personally knew about, such as when Laci took the home pregnancy test, and what her walking habits were.<br /><br />I hope and pray that I would not allow myself to be used by the police to spy on someone that I dated -- go to them and give them the details of the relationship, yes; Spy, NO. And I hope and pray I would have enough common sense to know that if they needed me to spy, then they had a very weak case, and I was not going to be a party to making something out of nothing.<br /><br />I hope and pray that I would never secretly support a brother all the while planning to write a book on how he's guilty. <br /><br />Those are just some of the things I hope and pray that I would never do. I can't say that I would never do them, just that I hope and pray that I wouldn't. <br /><br />Is there some of Scott's behavior that I strongly disapprove of? Oh yes, to be sure. The affair is inexcusable -- during a pregnancy is particularly insulting. How many times does that have to be said? Should I start every page on SII and every article on this blog with the disclaimer: I strongly disapprove of Scott having an affair, particularly when Laci was pregnant!!!! <br /><br />In fact, I think we should go back to criminalizing adultery. Oops, I guess we already have.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-90221263303967573262011-08-05T12:40:46.839-05:002011-08-05T12:40:46.839-05:00It would have been helpful had you given the chemo...It would have been helpful had you given the chemo information the first time -- I hope he's doing okay. <br /><br />No, Heather, I don't concern myself with things like that because they are not at all reliable indicators of innocence or guilt. People can be very innocent looking and guilty as hell, and vice versa. I look for evidence that links the person to the crime.<br /><br />Behavior may be a cause for looking at someone very closely, of being suspicious, but that suspicion has to produce supporting evidence, and in Scott's case, it did not.<br /><br />They suspected he killed her in the bedroom, even on the bed -- but could find no supporting evidence. They had to resort to, well he got lucky and didn't leave any evidence. Yea, right, on multiple crime scenes. It used to be that absence of evidence in a thorough investigation indicated innocence -- but not any more, it just means that they must have done it by some unknown miraculous means or some kind of magical trickery. He just made it appear like he killed her on the bed when he really killed her on the sofa -- that sort of illogical reasoning. He just made it look like he transported her in the truck when he really transported her some as yet unknown vehicle.<br /><br />And it goes on and on -- the only evidence that links Scott to this crime is the relationship of the recovery locations to his fishing route, and I've already said why that evidence exonerates Scott -- the very fact that the baby was found where he was found is absolutely exonerating; the very fact that the baby was larger than the uterus would hold is absolutely exonerating; the very fact that the baby was older than Dec 24 is absolutely exonerating. When you can wrap your head around those facts, you can begin to understand why it is not possible for Scott to have put a pregnant Laci in the Bay on 12-24-02 or any other day; nor for that matter for anyone else to have put a pregnant Laci in the Bay on 12-24 or any other day. That's just not what happened. When people start to admit what didn't happen, then perhaps we can start to figure out what did happen.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-27130696553494112472011-08-05T08:38:01.996-05:002011-08-05T08:38:01.996-05:00Marlene,
So examples 1,2,and 3 are not correct. P...Marlene,<br /><br />So examples 1,2,and 3 are not correct. Perhaps I do worry about my hubby a little more because he is on Chemo and could have been really sick. <br /><br />You still didn't answer my question:<br /><br />"Isn't there one instance where you look at this case and wonder how you would have responded? How it probably widely varies from Scott's response?"My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-89793939335722411802011-08-05T00:29:27.205-05:002011-08-05T00:29:27.205-05:00Sorry, Heather, but IMO your reaction is over the ...Sorry, Heather, but IMO your reaction is over the top. If I came home and the house was dark and my husband was gone, I wouldn't freak out unless:<br /><br />1) he was senile and never allowed out of the house alone, at which time I definitely would freak out<br /><br />2) he was a child molester under house arrest and never allowed to leave the house alone, at which time I definitely would freak out.<br /><br />3) I knew he had a girlfriend -- but what they heck, I'd probably just throw his clothes out on the front lawn and lock the door so he couldn't get back in.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-68579671470853360402011-08-04T14:48:38.899-05:002011-08-04T14:48:38.899-05:00My response is too long for a comment, so I will h...My response is too long for a comment, so I will have to post it as an article.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-45837268590484756552011-08-04T13:25:58.169-05:002011-08-04T13:25:58.169-05:00It's not about winning or losing an argument. ...It's not about winning or losing an argument. Or being patroninzing. You have your opinion and I have mine. I may not agree with it but that's the beauty of it. <br /><br />There are things with the investigation where there are conclusions the police came to that I don't agree with. But when I look at the evidence in total, this is what I see. <br /><br />The justice system is not perfect nor will it ever be. At least we live in a country where we have the ability to even have a trial. He could have been in a country where he could would already have been sentenced and been excuted.<br /><br />Isn't there one instance where you look at this case and wonder how you would have responded? How it probably widely varies from Scott's response?<br /><br />I'll give you mine: <br /><br />Last year, I had been at work all day and did some Christmas shopping on the way home. I hadn't talked to my husband all day and came home to a completely dark house. No sign of him, no note, nothing. I completely freaked out, running through the house calling for him, checking every closet, room, even the attic. I ran outside to ask my neighbor if he had seen him; which he had not. Got in my car (full of my groceries and presents) and drove around the neighborhood. I finally found him a few streets over helping one of our friends. I was a complete mess trying to find him.<br /><br />What did I NOT do? Continue with what I was doing and THEN worry about where my husband was.<br /><br />As I read the things Scott did, they way he responded or his lack of response, it all starts to add up. I honestly can't think of anything that I would be hard pressed to explain to a police department. My life is pretty normal and uneventful.My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-7394073021477656942011-08-04T11:13:58.833-05:002011-08-04T11:13:58.833-05:00Come, come, Heather. You accuse me of defending S...Come, come, Heather. You accuse me of defending Scott Peterson no matter what?!? You don't have a clue what I am about. So don't give me that patronizing, rolling of the eyes, you will defend Scott Peterson no matter what!<br /><br />That's what everyone resorts to when they are losing the discussion - oh, you will defend Scott no matter what! <br /><br />Sorry, Heather, that always exposes someone who feels the pressure of losing the discussion. <br /><br />This isn't about Scott Peterson -- it's about what is happening in our judicial system where people are convicted in the media and without substantial evidence directly linked to the crime. It may be enough to satisfy you when it applies to someone else, but I'm sure you would want a much higher standard if you ever found yourself in a situation where someone close to you disappears and your life is put under the microscope and people are making judgments about you based on fallacious media reports.<br /><br />Don't be foolish enough to think that in an investigation there aren't things in your life that you would be hard-pressed to explain to a police department that's already made up its collective mind that you are fully responsible and to a media that is interested in nothing but ratings, the truth be damned.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-14185787311186094072011-08-04T09:21:50.087-05:002011-08-04T09:21:50.087-05:00Marlene/Jane/Nadia/Burkey.
No matter what, you wi...Marlene/Jane/Nadia/Burkey.<br /><br />No matter what, you will defend SP. You think he's innoncent and I think otherwise. Nothing is perfect. No trial is perfect. No investigation is perfect. But the overwhelming evidence is that he killed his wife and son. There are too many things that Scott did that weren't coincidences.My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-81150753509973616582011-08-03T19:44:06.869-05:002011-08-03T19:44:06.869-05:00I don't have tourettes or happy fingers or any...I don't have tourettes or happy fingers or anything, the captcha said I didn't put in the right word so I did it again..go figure..my own blog won't let me post comments to it most of the time...so please excuse the double post.Lee Kramer https://www.blogger.com/profile/12725366402959404334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-85379955399429326442011-08-03T19:43:04.976-05:002011-08-03T19:43:04.976-05:00Heather--you didn't? It sounds to me like you...Heather--you didn't? It sounds to me like you did, plus, you didn't address the fact that Laci's doctors revised her due date, and they were the ones examining her.<br /><br />Nothing personal, but I think that's important and I was curious to see why you don't (apparently) agree.Lee Kramer https://www.blogger.com/profile/12725366402959404334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-59172142649947508432011-08-03T19:42:43.650-05:002011-08-03T19:42:43.650-05:00Heather--you didn't? It sounds to me like you...Heather--you didn't? It sounds to me like you did, plus, you didn't address the fact that Laci's doctors revised her due date, and they were the ones examining her.<br /><br />Nothing personal, but I think that's important and I was curious to see why you don't (apparently) agree.Lee Kramer https://www.blogger.com/profile/12725366402959404334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-11544426491284440862011-08-03T12:58:44.515-05:002011-08-03T12:58:44.515-05:00I could say the same for you but I didn't.I could say the same for you but I didn't.My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-89744211924951441212011-08-03T12:36:11.450-05:002011-08-03T12:36:11.450-05:00Heather, I'm glad you are following this blog,...Heather, I'm glad you are following this blog, but personally I think you have blinders on regarding this subject. I'm not surprised -- it's one of those few subjects that's a real deal-breaker for Scott's conviction.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-88303408309188981002011-08-03T09:09:08.185-05:002011-08-03T09:09:08.185-05:00Marlene/Jane/Nadia:
According to research, the fi...Marlene/Jane/Nadia:<br /><br />According to research, the first ultrasound done at 10 weeks will give a physician the due date which should carry throughout the pregnancy. Any ultrasound done later should not change the due date. As the pregnancy progresses, the dating of the pregnancy becomes less and less accurate. There may be a week or more difference in the second trimester with normal growth. <br /><br />Laci's fundal height at her last visit was 33 cm which would correspond with her correct gestational age. According to her medical records, she had a pregnancy weight gain of 34 pounds which is on the high side. That can also account for a larger baby.<br /><br />Dr. Galloway testified that based on the average measurements of Conner's bones, she estimated his gestational age between 35 weeks and 36 weeks. However, she adjusted it by a margin of error of +/-2 weeks giving a range of 33 weeks to 38 weeks.My Sparkling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802605980643133405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4083330089081355373.post-78645617574493295102011-08-02T16:52:12.457-05:002011-08-02T16:52:12.457-05:00Personally, I give more weight to what Laci's ...Personally, I give more weight to what Laci's doctors had to say about her due date than anything that's been said since by anyone. That's because those doctors had no need to doctor that date or say it was this or that. They were the ones taking care of her, interpreting the ultrasounds, and it's also very clear the date she announced her pregnancy to people. <br /><br />I agree that it was an unkind remark, one of many unkind and judgemental remarks by a woman who had hung out with Peterson some four or five times. And I would guess that Peterson may have thought: that's not her due date, but I just can't go there and argue this with Amber.<br /><br />That would have been my instinct, as well. <br /><br />I don't feel sorry for Amber. She was asked not to use that image of Laci on the cover of her book with her and Scott also prominently featured. She chose to use it anyway. She acted like she wanted to avoid the media, but then got tempted when Connie Chung came calling. Mrs. R. said please don't do that, and at least Frey listened that time. <br /><br />There's no way with law enforcement friends who had DOJ roommates, that Frey didn't know about Peterson's marriage after her best friend told her about it. There's just no way. The whole business of her asking her friend to photograph the two of them at a party, that doesn't sit right either. And so---supposedly she liked him, right, and was heartbroken? <br />So if she likes him so much, and wants to be around him, with the trust that implies, why is she immediately ready to believe he murdered his wife, to the extent that she doesn't even ask him about it before going to police? See, none of these things make sense to me, but this was not a day-to-day Mr.-and-Mrs. kind of relationship. Like he did have with Laci, with whom he spent the marjority of his recreational time.Lee Kramer https://www.blogger.com/profile/12725366402959404334noreply@blogger.com